How many Gog's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Answer: Don't know
i just finished watching the recording of the talk at the annual meeting that re-explains gog of magog.
i caught something not previously talked about, that i can recall.. gog of magog is thought to be a coalition of nations that attach god's people during the great tribulation.
this is from ezekiel 38 & 39.. gog and magog in revelation 20 represents those with the same attitude as gog of magog.. thus, the new teaching (maybe not new, but i'll have to research this) is that gog in ezekiel is not the same as gog in revelation 20. two different gogs, happening about a thousand years apart.. .
How many Gog's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Answer: Don't know
not only does it steal your time from earning a living and having personal time, it also costs you real $$$ in fuel vehicle costs and maintainance .
.
.
Been there, done that....double whammy for sure
reading the oct 1 1953 wt about gog of magog because of the posts about the changes of identity.. basic question:.
why would satan (whether gog or not) be cast to the earth?.
why not cast him to quadrant 4 of the galaxy?.
its allegorical....2nd century speak for reason for persecution.
has anyone else seen this, or did i just miss the posting?.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/14/city-houston-demands-pastors-turn-over-sermons/.
here's the opening paragraph:.
George W. Bush was instrumental in opening up the money channel to religious institutions, although the defined Church and State aspect of the US Constitution is pretty clear. With that in mind, those religions that enjoy the financial blessings of their affiliation with the government, and that would be all of them, should be required to uphold certain standards for civil and human rights.
If the Bible says that being "gay" is wrong and "gays" are not welcome at that church, fine. If you believe the Bible then that is your perogative to listen and accept. The church is simply repeating what their "good book" says, most who attend would probably take exception with it anyway. If the Bible says that being "gay" is wrong and the church condemns the "gays" with hate speech and a call to arms against the "gays" then that church is far from 1) Christian and 2) an entity deserving of ANY tax exempt consideration or governmental financial support....
as hillary clinton might say, what difference does it make???.
even if god's kingdom was established in 1914, why is that such a big deal?
other than unprovable actions in heaven, what can jws say is the significance of it all...with a straight face?.
The significance is that Jesus only has 900 years left of his 1000 year reign and he hasn't done much with the 100 years he's been reigning.
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
I have said this before on another topic for those that have a real problem with "the gays" as my MIL calls them.
If you can tell me why you are attracted to blondes over brunettes, then tell me.
If you can tell me why you are attracted to one body type over another, then tell me.
If you can tell me why you are attracted to the color red over the color blue, then tell me.
If you can tell me, then you probably don't have any issue with "the gays" (thanks MIL...hilarious) because you realize that most attraction is chemically based and functions on a cerebral level that you have no real control over.
If you can't, then you are just plain ignorant and a bigot... i.e. " a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." (Webster's)
in your experience, what would the org have to do that would cause the most people to leave?.
.
.
Thanks for your comments, I can see the wisdom and depth of perspective in each. I have read similar threads, but with all the newbies floating around this board, just wanted to know.
I know for myself, it was a perfect storm of tragedy, marginalization, insincerity, and absurd adjustments that were "evidently" the truth all along, which, of course, meant that everything believed prior to that was essentially apostasy to the real "truth." God! what foolishness!
after a one year sucessful fade and no longer associated with any congreation, i was visiting my sister this week (who goes to the meeting to please her husband for now; i am slowly planting seeds though) and they decided to year this weeks midweek meeting via the telephone.
since i was a guest in her house, i sat with them in the living room to hear the meeting.
to my surprise (especially growing up as a gay jw with still alot of anger in my heart over how i was treated), the talks 2 and 3 where on, of course, homosexualiy.
@granada35
I have found that people who excessively condemn anything are hiding something, similar to the American Beauty experience.
I have been in congregations where the zealot against drinking was a drunk, the zealot against pornography was an Internet freak, and the zealot against all things "gay" was a closet homosexual.
so lately my wife and i have been arguing alot.
not big arguments...but more of a bickering.. you see, over the last year i have stepped down as an ms and we moved halls.
last november was around the time i woke.. during this time we still have family studies....but only from the bible.
Well, according to the ORG...you are the spiritual "head" of the family, unless of course the ORG says something that conflicts with your headship, then everything you say is just drivel.
in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
.
sorry MEGA!!!